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Michael Ian Black, Michael Showalter, and David Wain are the producers, writers, performers and directors of the new Comedy Central show Stella, which premieres June 28th at 10:30/9:30 Central (and 7:30AM on June 29th for all of our friends in the Eastern Europe Summer Time Zone.) These do-it-yourself comedians are just our kind of guys. (In a non-sexual kind of way)
Believe it or not, it was more than a decade ago that The State made MTV funny (intentionally) for a while, and since that time Black, Showalter, and Wain have been busy. They’ve been doing Stella, a hilarious stage show about the adventures of three idiots in their business suits, since 1997. But that’s not all.
Michael Ian Black may be best known for his character Phil on NBC’s sitcom Ed which I never saw because, like exercise, it was clearly for women. He also played McKinley in the very funny movie Wet Hot American Summer. Guest hosted The Late, Late, Show for awhile, and yet somehow managed to squeeze in an appearance or two on VH1. Showalter was a correspondent on The Daily Show in 1996. Was in Signs with Jesus’ favorite director Mel Gibson, and also co-produced and starred in Wet Hot American Summer. He also just finished writing, directing and starring in The Baxter, which also stars Black and Wain. Wain not only co-wrote, and directed Wet Hot American Summer, he has appeared in tons of other projects including The Daily Show, Reno 911, Crank Yankers, Strangers with Candy, and I’m sure a lot of other stuff that I don’t know about.
The point is, these guys bust their asses to make you laugh, and they do it their way- dildos and all. More importantly, they are funny! Don’t believe me? Just see what these 3 knuckleheads of 'do-it-yourself comedy' recently had to say when we discussed life, the state of comedy, and the upcoming Stella series premiere on Comedy Central.
The Phat Phree: Thanks for doing this. I know there are a lot of fans of Wet Hot American Summer and The State both in our staff, and certainly among our readers.
Michael Ian Black: You’re welcome. Your staff and readers are obviously a discriminating bunch. Of course, you didn’t mention my Sierra Mist commercials, which I think might be some of my best work. It makes me think either you: 1. Don’t like the commercials or 2. (And I’m praying this isn’t the case) Don’t drink Sierra Mist. It’s fine if you don’t like the commercials, but I would beg your readers to at least give the soft drink another chance. I think it’s one of Pepsico’s finest moments.
TPP: I’ll keep that in mind. I just saw a copy of the pilot for Stella, and I almost pissed my pants (it was that funny). For the people who may not know anything about your new show, give us the concept for Stella.
Michael Ian Black: Thanks, although I think you might need to see a doctor about your urinary problem. At this point in your life, you shouldn’t have any trouble holding your bladder. It could be symptomatic of something serious. I could give you the name of a good urologist. In terms of the concept, it’s a lot like Law & Order, except it’s not a drama, there are no crimes, no good actors, and it’s nothing like Law & Order.
David Wain: Just three guys and they really go for it! you know?
Michael Showalter: It’s basically a typical boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy meets two other boys, they start wearing suits and acting like imbeciles, boy gets girl back - kind of story.
TPP:Stella started in the nightclubs – I caught the Stella show recently when you played a last minute show at the Grog Shop in Cleveland. Were you surprised with the turnout, and how has the response been from everyone?
MS: We’ve decided that Stella has a) the best fans in the world. b) The best dressed fans in the world. c) The best looking fans in the world, and perhaps most importantly d) the nicest fans in the world.
MIB: We are always surprised when we leave New York and people know who we are and are willing to pay good money to see us perform. Although I’m not sure that it’s “good” money they’re paying. It might be some of that dirty drug money. I hear crystal meth is a real problem out there in the heartland. The response has been very good from people. Most nights when I get off the stage there’s a sixteen or seventeen year old boy waiting to suck me off. You can’t ask for more than that. (For the record, I usually say no.)
DW: You know, you'd think my hometown of Cleveland would be more supportive but, alas, we've had our two least attended shows there. Maybe I pissed someone off at that high school hockey game when I was out back raping everyone.
TPP: It has a little bit of an Abbott and Costello flavor to it, were they a big inspiration for this?
MIB: More Abbott than Costello. 70% Abbott. Only 3% Costello. The other 27% is pure Jamaican ganga. Yah, mon!!!!
DW: Less Abbott and Costello, more Captain & Tenielle
MS: I’d say more Elvis Costello than Abbott and Costello but I can see your point.
TPP: A lot of the live show seems improvised, how much of it actually is?
DW: Very little.
MIB: It’s improvised only to the extent that it is completely scripted. But once we’ve completely committed the script to memory, we’re able to totally throw it out on stage so that what you’re seeing is a completely improvised tightly scripted show that we’re making up as we go along.
MS: We’re very old vaudeville in that regard. Every night we trot out the act like an old show horse. I’m sure we’ll be fake ad-libbing well into our golden years.
TPP: Do you prefer scripted sketch comedy to improvising? Are you fans of improv comedy?
MIB: I wouldn’t say I’m a fan of improv comedy. Most of the time it just doesn’t make sense and I don’t have the patience for things that don’t make sense. I’m not smart enough.
DW: I appreciate improv but am terrible at it. We (Stella, The State, etc) came from film/acting school and weren't much into improv as opposed to filmmaking/sketch.
MS: I did improv in college. I love improv but it’s so fleeting. It’s only funny in the moment. One tends not to remember a joke or moment they saw in an improv show. I think sketch has a little longer shelf life. Plus the fact that I’m not smart enough to do improv.
TPP: Are you all surprised with Wet Hot American Summer’s cult following?
MIB: Not really. When we were making it, I think everybody pretty much thought that a very small percentage of the population would absolutely love the movie and a much larger percentage would think it was a total piece of shit.
DW: I knew it was a cult-y type of movie but definitely have been surprised by its reach and staying power. Perhaps some day it'll turn a profit!
MS: I think we knew it had cult movie potential. It’s very gratifying to know that people care about the film. I’d have been more surprised if it made 100 million in the box office.
TPP: What comedy acts out there inspire you? And what are some of your favorite comedic actors today?
DW: Currently? Ben Folds, Graham Nash, Graham Parker, Graham Cracker.
MIB: I like Marmaduke. Just the idea that you could have a dog that big – that always makes me laugh. It’s like, when they go out, are they walking the dog or is the dog walking them? Just talking about it makes me laugh.
MS: I think Ricky Gervais is a Jedi Master of Comedy. Will Ferrel too. Steven Colbert. Amy Sedaris, just to name a few.
TPP: You must have a fun group to work with – Tell me what it’s like to working with each other?
DW: Michael Ian Black is sweet like sugar; Michael Showalter is suite like a room.
MS: We like trying to make each other laugh. We argue over the smallest details. We play a lot of poker. We reminisce alot about all the years that we’ve known each other and have been doing this. We all met in our late teens and now we’re in our thirties. We wonder, will we still be doing this when we’re in our 40’s? Doo-doo jokes and such...
Showalter, Black, and Wain
MIB: It’s a lot of chit chat and poker. If you like those two things, you’d probably like working with us.
TPP- You also wrote a play called Sex AKA. Weiners and Boobs, and some of the writers here at The Phat Phree actually performed that play for you in Cleveland. Was that a great tribute to you and do you have a soft spot for Cleveland comedy after that?
DW- Soft, like flacid? No SERIOUSLY it was really cool to see our words performed.
MS- You guys were fantastic. You performed it better than we did. I was very impressed.
TPP: You all seem to have an intelligent, unique comedy style, but it seems like Monty Python, Kids in Hall, Mr. Show, Ben Stiller, Upright, Mad TV, and Saturday Night Live have done it all, and recycled every idea. Do you feel sketch comedy is getting played out on television?
MS: No, I feel like sketch is a really great form and that it’s just not something that over the years alot of people have been able to do that well.
DW: There will always be another group who comes along and redefines the genre for their own generation and their own sensibility - I've always been partial to those shows that emanated from groups of writer/performers that were together before they were on TV (Python, Kids, State, UCB) vs the assembled cast with separate group of writers (SNL, Mad TV, etc).
MS: I’m certain that a group will come along soon and blow people’s socks off and then there will be another drought and then another great troupe, and so on. It’s not an easy thing to get right because so much of it depends on an ensemble of like minded performers and writers. That’s a hard chemistry to find.
TPP:Speaking of Saturday Night Live, what do you think of it these days? Is it sad to see how the show has declined over the years?
MIB : I haven’t watched the show in several years because I’m not up that late, but I would probably like it if I did watch it because I admire so many of the people on that show. I think they’ve got a very funny cast and funny writers, and I doubt the show has declined at all. If anything, my guess is it’s probably stronger now than it’s been in years.
DW : I think much of it is funny now more than in a while, because most of the cast seems to actually get along and it's obvious watching when that's the case. Amy Poehler is, of course, a superstar, one of the great talents.
TPP: Any words of wisdom, or advice, for all the dreamers and coat-tailors out there?
MIB: When the Girl Scouts come around next time, stick to the Thin Mints and the Samoas. You’ll thank me.
MS: I read something in a book by David Mamet that rang true. He said, if you’ve got a fall back plan then you’ll fall back on it. He said that if you’ve got nothing to fall back on then you’re halfway there.
DW: Dream on young vixens!
TPP: To quote Dr. Dre, “You’ve been there and done that,” so how do I hold up as an interviewer?
MIB: The first thing you might want to think about is changing your last name from “Zumock.” Other than that, I’ll rate you a solid so-so.
DW: You're amazing, Chad. And a true class act in the Walter Cronkite tradition.
MS: Charlie Rose eat your heart out!
TPP: We are about done, but there is one more thing. We play this game with everyone we interview. It’s called “The Phat 5.” Five quick questions that help us learn a little about you. Ready?
MS: Ready!
MIB: Whatever.
The Phat 5 questions
1.Tupac or Biggie?
DW: Like Biggie Shorty from "Pootie Tang"? MIB: Biggie. MS: De La Soul.
2. My ex-girlfriend and I just broke up from a long distance relationship. Should I move to California to be with her?
DW: No you broke up, dummy! MIB: I’d have to see her tits to be able to answer that question. MS: Not if you’re broken up.
TPP: Moving on..
3. Who was the greatest host ever for the Family Feud- Richard Dawson, Ray Combs, Louie Anderson, Richard Karn?
MIB: If you have to even ask the question, you’re already so far gone that I can’t help you. MS: Richard Dawson. DW: Only Dawson was always drunk in every episode - my vote goes to him.
4. Is Ben Affleck the worst working actor in the history of Hollywood?
MIB: No. DW: Sadly, yes. At least the worst actor to reach superstar status. However he does seem to be a very nice guy and surprisingly self-aware. MS: Actually, I’m a fan of Ben Affleck. I’m not afraid to admit it either. I think he’s charming.
5. The Bible- True or False?
MS: True. DW: True in spirit? Or not? MIB: Parts of it true. Parts false. All that stuff about God? Total bullshit.
TPP: Thank you for your time guys. The Phat Phree just interviewed you. Welcome to the Phamily!
MIB: Thanks for having us. We had a “phine” time.
What a feeling. Bein's believin'. the first episode of Stella
I loved the State. I can't wait for this show. I had no idea these guys had a new show.
Jerry Moore
Nice Work Chad.
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Posted: 6/1/2005 2:43:52 AM
I've seen the Stella stage show. I am stoked to see it on television. For anyone who hasn't seen it, it is really funny.
Good luck, Stella.
Dave R
Cool!
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:37:49 AM
Kick-ass interview man, I'm looking forward to seeing this. Michael Ian Black is freaking funny on 'I love the 80's'
Steve
Nice
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Posted: 6/1/2005 12:01:59 PM
Nice interview Chad, This should have gotten top billing! How come it got buried? These guys are great though.
Rickman2
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Posted: 6/1/2005 12:15:42 PM
I don't think this interview was buried, it's at the main thing on the page. You must not have flash or something. Nice job!
Steve
Oh yeah
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Posted: 6/1/2005 12:36:10 PM
You're right. Disregard that post. I'm an idiot. Again, nice job. Look forward to checking these guys out.
P.S. MIB should have gotten the Late Late show gig instead of Fergie.
J.C.
Sweet
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Posted: 6/1/2005 1:13:35 PM
I didn't know about that "Baxter" movie till I saw this. I'm pumped about it now. Will it be released everywhere, or just to big cities?
Stella Fan
this is perfect
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Posted: 6/1/2005 2:27:48 PM
Fergie sux big balls! MIB was great on that show, he got robbed! I can't wait to checkout the Stella series, they're great to see 'live' and I hope the show is just as good
Googs
..but at least he doesn't use...a colostomy bag.
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Posted: 6/1/2005 3:44:16 PM
Are you butt ugly with nasty ass taste? Do you like Pancakes? Then come on down to Betty's No Good Clothes Store and Pancake House. Hainus dresses for big fat hoggies. Cheap, Old fitting suits that were never in style. Sticky tight clothes for old people....and pancakes....mmmmm....and while you're here, you can check out our grubby snotty little kids department where you'll find awful itchy polyester jumpsuits that will get the crap knocked out of them at school...and pancakes.
So, put a bag on your head and hop on the ugly bus to Betty's No Good Clothes Store and Pancakes. Terrible...Terrible clothes, and pancakes.
Viva The State.
....the day funny TV died.
Jus
Co-Editor's Note
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Posted: 6/1/2005 4:39:53 PM
This article was not burried it IS the feature at the top of the home page this week. You may have caught the side link before the banner was up.
Just so MIB knows, the staff did used to drink Sierra Mist, but ever since they removed the caffeine we had to take it away from them. You're infamous ads have made us reconsider the decision, but it would be much easier to comply with your mandate if the beverage could keep our staff wired into the wee hours of the morning when the real funny happens.